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Good Food

Lab-grown chocolate, bird flu, beans, egg substitutes

Good Food

KCRW

Society & Culture

4.51K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

From chocolate grown in a petri dish to the latest updates on bird flu, this is a sciencey episode along with a few beans, lemons and eggs.

  • Gabriela Glueck puts lab grown chocolate under the microscope.
  • Apoorva Mandavilli reports on the bird flu crisis and what items to avoid when you're shopping.
  • Genevieve Ko offers alternatives for recipes that involve eggs.
  • Steve Sando and Julia Newberry of Rancho Gordo share their ideas for using 50 varieties of beans.
  • Bethany Harris puts the squeeze on farmers market citrus.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

From KCRW, I'm Evan Klyman and this is Good Food.

0:04.0

It's the day after Valentine's Day, and I'm guessing a few of you still have some chocolate laying around.

0:11.0

According to the AI overlords that scour the internet on our behalf for answers,

0:17.0

Americans buy about 58 million pounds of chocolate on Valentine's Day each year. Who knows if that

0:25.2

estimate is correct, but the point is, it is a lot. It amounts to billions of dollars in chocolate

0:32.8

sales. But as we've reported in the past, nearly two-thirds of the world's cocoa beans are grown in West Africa,

0:40.8

where forests are cleared for farming and beans are often harvested by children or underpaid adults.

0:47.8

And as our appetite for cacao shows no signs of slowing, these downsides have forced some to look for an alternative.

0:56.9

Enter the tech sector. A handful of food tech companies have thrown their weight behind

1:02.3

lab-grown or cell-culture chocolate, and however you or I feel about lab-grown food, the idea

1:09.5

of petri dish chocolate is pretty fascinating. Good Foods,

1:13.9

Julia Child Fellow Gabrielle Glic visits California Cultured to find out how lab-grown chocolate is produced,

1:21.4

what it tastes like, and if it's coming for your Snickers bar anytime soon. California Cultured is headquartered in Sacramento.

1:29.9

Its lab is tucked away in a nondescript warehouse park.

1:34.0

All gray, no green.

1:36.2

It's hard to imagine they're growing anything here, let alone a tropical plant like cacao.

1:42.4

I met Alan Pearlstein, the company's founder, in a cafe right next to

1:46.5

the lab. Thank you. He was hard to miss. California cultured hat, California cultured shirt.

1:54.9

Alan's a food tech guy at heart and got his start working on cell culture, aka lab-grown meat, over 15 years ago.

2:02.9

Since then, he's worked in all sorts of cell-based food labs.

2:07.1

For him, the chocolate problem was like a nail, and cell culture, a hammer.

2:12.4

I sort of started cobbling together these processes and technologies to actually see, is this actually possible?

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