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The Politics Guys

LA Protests, Army Parade, No Kings, Vaccine Panel Mass Firing

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5772 Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Mike and Trey are joined by a new co-host, Tim King, a Professor of Economics at the University of Austin. The guys start off with a discussion of the civil unrest in Los Angeles. Tim argues that Democrats are hurting themselves politically by appearing to side with violent protesters. Trey points out that the administration’s legal justification for deploying troops is on shaky ground. Mike highlights that while the president receives broad deference on these matters, the failure to follow proper legal procedures is a real problem. From there, they move to the parade in honor of the Army’s 250th birthday and the ‘No Kings’ counterprogramming scheduled for the same day in multiple locations across the country. Tim sees the parade as a positive show of support for the military, but doubts protests will change anything. Trey views these events as more about organizing and building activist networks than immediate impact. Mike warns that counterprotests like these risk alienating voters and undermining the cause they hope to advance. They close by considering HHS Secretary RFK Jr firing all 17 members of the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices and quickly naming eight replacements, just weeks before the committee’s next meeting. Tim downplays the impact, suggesting public trust in government health advice was already damaged during COVID. Trey stresses that the advisory board’s decisions have real consequences for vaccine access. Mike finds RFK’s claims of conflicts of interest unconvincing, seeing little justification for such a sweeping shake-up. The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Check out Tim on Substack and X Mike’s Substack: What Fresh Hell is This? Get 50% off your first Magic Mind subscription using the code POLITICSGUYS50 at https://www.magicmind.com/politicsguys50 #magicmind #mentalperformance Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Atheists, agnostics, long-haired widows, short-haired widows, vandal, hooligans.

0:05.2

I love the government, hug the government, hug the government, love, the government, hug the government.

0:12.0

Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.

0:18.7

I'm Northern Kentucky University political scientist Michael Barronowski. I'm Northern Kentucky University Political Scientist, Michael

0:21.4

Barronowski. I'm joined today by my conservative counterpart, Oklahoma Christian University political

0:26.9

scientist Trey Orndorf, as well as a new voice on the politics, guys. And today, my other

0:32.7

conservative counterpart, University of Austin economics professor Tim Kane. Tim and Trey, welcome.

0:40.3

Great to be talking with you today. Thanks. Great to be here. And so...

0:44.5

Well, I love to do Mike Trey episodes. So, Tim, I thought because listeners haven't heard from you

0:49.8

before, you could just tell them a little bit about yourself just so they know that you're not

0:54.4

some random guy, happened to see it Kroger, said, hey, do you want to do a podcast?

0:58.3

You actually have some pretty serious credentials, I think.

1:01.8

I don't know.

1:03.0

Anyway, so you see me at home.

1:04.6

Yeah, I grew up in Ohio.

1:06.8

My dad worked at Kroger, so I was there for a little bit.

1:10.0

He was stocking shelves when I was a little kid.

1:12.8

So, yeah, I served in the Air Force, left Ohio, went to the Air Force Academy.

1:17.2

It was an intelligence officer, really loved it.

1:20.0

Cold War ended, and I went back and got a Ph.D. in economics.

1:24.8

So I've been more of a think tank scholar and worked at a handful of thing

1:29.1

tanks, worked for Congress. But I've been for the last 12 years at Stanford at the Hoover

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