Passion in my pocket so my pennies should be.

What they selling is cheap so I'm buying that this freedom is free.

I've been becoming me.

See when Jesus taking the lead.

With purpose I bleed and rise like doing under the heat.

Defeaters are never.

You can't reattach with a sever. What's bringing you pleasure can tell you where you stacking your

treasure when storm is your weather know that it gets worse for it's better

Hello everyone welcome to the Esau McCauley podcast I'm your host Esau Esau McCauley. Today on the show, we have my good friend Jamie Aiton. I promise we don't only bring Wheaton people on, but every now and then there's someone who's skills and expertise directly relate to the issues of today. So can you tell us again, because I will probably say it wrong. Jamie, what is your title?

So I'm the Blanchard Chair of Humanitarian and Disaster Leadership and co-director of the Humanitarian Institute at Wheaton College.

Okay.

Now, Jamie, I hate to sideline you as soon as they introduce you on the podcast, but we're going to get to you in just one second.

We're going to talk about how we might think about disaster relief, particularly as relates to the people who are suffering in California. But in the spirit

of Christian charity, I have to reconcile with my fellow brother in Christ, our producer, Mike. There's been

some tension going on behind the scenes that people might want to know about. And I'm going to

recount to you all what happened, and then we can maybe move forward past this.

I do it on the podcast.

So Mike lost his keys at the office.

And he sent out a group text to everybody who works at the...

Hang on.

We had an all-day team meeting.

Okay.

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