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I'm Kevin Flynn with Rebecca LaVoy and Marsha Chatlin. And these are their stories.

Welcome to these are their stories, the podcast about network tv's most enduring crime franchise,

and the real life cases that inspired their shows. I'm Kevin Flynn.

Each podcast will break down an episode from either criminal intent, S for you, or original recipe.

And today we're looking at Lawn order season eight, episode seven, blood.

Hey man, what's up man? This prescription's made out to Joshua but dead.

She's the father. She's black. Maybe the pharmacy made a mistake.

Now you might remember this episode originally appeared in our premium feed in 2020.

And then George Floyd was murdered that week. So we never put the episode in the public feed.

It really didn't feel right in the moment for two white people to take part in a discussion about

racial identity. Even if it was to point out the ham fisted way was handled in a 1997 episode of

Lawn order. But now racism has been solved. So yay. But I could go back and relisten to it.

And there is nobody we know that we would rather have had on than our guest and our friend Dr.

Marsha Chatlin. Now you've heard her a bunch of times on the show leading academic in American

history and African American studies, Lawn order fan, funny as hell. But she won a goddamn

Pulitzer last year. And she was the perfect guide for all of us to provide real context and hot

takes about this episode, which focuses on a murder suspect who is black and passing as white.

Well, she cracked us up. But man, she never stopped teaching and we never stopped learning.

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