Welcome to the Eric Metaxus show.

I shouldn't tell you this, but Eric hired someone who sounds just like him to host today's show.

But since I'm the announcer, they told me, so I'm telling you,

don't be fooled. The real Eric's in jail.

Hey there, folks. I'm talking to L.A. Marzuli about his really astonishing book,

Rungs of Disclosure, following the trail of extraterrestrials and the end times. Very challenging stuff, but we're doing our best here.

So, L.A., you just said you made it a difference, you're differentiating between demons,

the demons that Jesus is casting out in the New Testament and fallen angels. Why do you need to make that

distinction? I don't get that. Because fallen angels are the ones that came down and mixed their

seed way back in the days of Noah. They mixed the seed. They sinned against, they took wives.

Genesis 6 tells us that the sons of God, the Beneha Elohim, which always refers to the

angelic host. So the angels come down, they see the women that they're beautiful, they take wives.

They just take whatever they want, and it's plural. They take wives. And then it says the Nephlema

are on the earth in those days. Now, if it's no one's second incursion, Moses would have just put a period

there, but he doesn't. The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterwards,

when the sons of God, the fallen angels, the B'nai ha Elohim in the Hebrew, which always first

to the angelicose, saw the women of earth and went into them, took wives. The offspring,

abyss and holy union between fallen angels and human women are the Nephilim. Okay, so the Nephilim existed in historical times.

Correct. And you're saying that they are giants? Is that right? They can be giants. And that's,

you see, this is the deal. This is why it's such a deep dive.

There are, when, when, and get this, when Joshua and Caleb are ready to go into the

promised land, who is there?

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