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Welcome to Trust's main. The podcast about cults, extreme belief, and manipulation from two

deconstructors who actually experienced it, I am lowlblanc, and I'm Megan Elizabeth. Today is part

two of our interview with Kyle and Kari, former members of Megan's childhood group The Two By Two's.

In this episode, we're going to discuss the Facebook group they started from members who had left

or were thinking about leaving the group. The overseer who was found dead in a hotel and the

letter that exposed his sexual abuse, and how now that people had a place to actually talk to

each other, more people began to share their stories. They'll tell us about how they began to get

non-stop messages from survivors who'd been sexually abused by workers or other members of

the group, how hundreds of perpetrators have been named, many by multiple victims, and how people

are now leaving or thinking about leaving, and how much of this is shaking up the group.

Also, a lot of members' critical thinking is coming back online, which is very interesting to see.

I can imagine, so we're going to skip Coltiesting this week and just talk about this little bit.

Megan, what are your thoughts going into this episode? This is obviously your childhood group.

Yeah, I mean, we get into it in the episode how shocking this all has been to me and how I've

referred to this group as a cult on this show for two years, almost jokingly or a little bit

lightly. I had no idea how deep this all really went, and the last five months have been so hard

to wrap my mind around, so I can't even imagine what it's like for those who are still in.

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