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If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!

Welcome to TrustMe, the podcast about cult, extreme belief and manipulation from two

friends who've actually experienced it, I am Lola Blanc.

And I'm Megan Elizabeth.

And today is part one of our two part episode with Kyle and Kari,

former members of the two by twos, which is the group that Megan grew up in.

Well, well, Kyle and Kari have a lot to say about recent developments in the group,

which we will get into, but in this episode we're going to focus more on

the religion in general and their personal stories of deconstructing their beliefs.

We'll discuss the structure of the group, which has no official church buildings,

and is primarily led by pairs of ministers called workers,

how Kyle and Kari joined and met as kids,

and the differences between their experiences and Megan's.

We'll get into what they believed and the beliefs they never discussed,

how the pandemic led them both to question their religion in different ways,

and how they found their way back to each other after a difficult period of disconnection.

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