Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, designed to help bring those four key stoic virtues,

courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world.

Hey, it's Ryan.

Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast.

Okay, so I gave a talk in Austin. I guess this was back in

September, maybe October. And I'd had kind of a crazy day in Austin, and I'd come straight

from the podcast studio, and I told this story. We know physical courage, I think, when we see it, right?

Physical courage is Kyle Carpenter, who I interviewed today, the Medal of Honor.

He was on a rooftop in Afghanistan.

A grenade comes in and a split second and throws himself on top of it.

He absorbs the majority of the blacks.

He saves the life of his buddy and quite nearly loses his own.

He went to the metal of honor for this.

But it's that flash, that moment when you do the incredible thing.

He and I talked about someone that I'm writing about in my next book. It's a man named Tom Hudner.

Tom Hudner is flying in the early days of the Korean War.

He's a wingman to a guy named Jesse Brown,

is the first black naval pilot.

And Brown takes a bit of flack. It goes down down the snowy feeling in the Chosen Reservoir.

And in an instant, Hudner, circling above, sees that his friend isn't leaving the plane.

The canopy is up, but he's still in the plane and he's waving. And without a thought,

he crashes his own plane next to it in the hope of pulling him from the wreckage. It's unsuccessful

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