Am I being held back a little bit? Maybe. Am I holding the team back at sometimes? Yes, if you don't know by going back and rewatching, then you're an idiot. I feel like losing has made you more popular. Do you feel like that? Yes, the fans are now to the point where they're like, how could this guy not have won a race in however many races by now, you know? Take him kicking your ass at some point.

It's gonna happen.

It sucks.

It's awful.

That's how it's supposed to be.

It is awful.

You know?

What a race!

California's Kevin Hartington!

Kevin Hartford doesn't!

Hey!

See you, man.

Kyle, thanks for taking the time. We figured we would get set up out in the middle of the desert so that you felt it at home. Yes. Did we do okay? Very much at home, yeah. I love the desert atmosphere. I'm from Las Vegas, so being a little bit of a desert rat myself, this puts me right back into feeling right at home. When you were a kid, did you spend much time in the desert, like on side-by-sides, four-wheelers, anything? Not a whole lot, maybe a little bit. We had the old Joe's Honda back in the day, the three-wheeler. Oh yeah. Yeah, I ended up on my side maybe more than enough times with that one. But it wasn't until I'd made it NASCAR that then I got the four wheelers and the side by

sides and the dune buggies and all that stuff.

And we went out and did the dune thing with Biffel all the time, which was always a great time.

But yeah, that came after the fact because all the stuff that we did growing up was working in the garage, working on our race cars, getting race cars ready to go and focusing on that and not just going to play. Yeah. Well, you come back to Vegas twice a year now. How much time do you actually get to spend in Vegas? I mean, do you like going home or is it just a pain in the butt? It's just another race. Yeah.

You know, like, yeah, we've got some friends in Vegas and stuff when we come back to town

or some sweet spots that we like to go eat at and everything, you know, see some of the friends that I grew up with. But other than that, it's just, you know, it's another race on the circuit. We come in, you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, we go right back out, you know, so sort of that deal.

When you go to Vegas, you've had a, Saturday, Sunday, we go right back out, you know, so sort of that deal.

When you go to Vegas, you've had a lot of success at the Speedway. You know, you've gone and been able to win races there. You've gone and over the past couple years, you're getting close to

approaching a hundred race, winning the street. What kind of pressure

does it put on when you go back to Vegas? Because you have had success there. You know what it takes. It's a very unique racetrack. Yeah, it's a fun racetrack. I mean, my first laps there were back on the old configuration back in the trucks in 2001. Nice and flat. Yeah, it was flatter, wider, all that, you know. And then they did the repave and all that sort of stuff.

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