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Hidden Forces

Kyle Bass | The Present Danger: America, China, and the Second Cold War

Hidden Forces

Demetri Kofinas

Business, Government

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2019

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 110 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Chief Investment Officer of Hayman Capital Management and founding member of the "Committee on the Present Danger: China," about the gathering threat posed to Western, liberal democracies and open societies by the Chinese Communist Party. Kyle explains how the CCP and its state champions have been using US capital markets to fund the development of China's armed forces, the threats posed by a Chinese operated 5G network, as well as concerns about the acquisition and use of Americans' genomic data by the Chinese government. Kyle also goes into detail about his thesis on Hong Kong, its peg to the USD, as well as the fragility of its banking system. Additional topics include the "reeducation camps" and reports of organ harvesting in Xinjiang, the Chinese social credit system, the Federal Reserve Repo market, and Kyle's outlook for the macroeconomy. 

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Today's episode of Hidden Forces is made possible by listeners like you.

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Each review helps more people find the show and join our amazing community.

0:26.7

And with that, please enjoy this week's episode. The What's up everybody? My guest today is Kyle Bass.

0:53.2

Kyle is the founder and chief investment officer of Hayman Capital Management,

0:58.3

which is an investment manager of private funds focused on global event-driven opportunities.

1:06.0

Many of you will already know Kyle, either from his appearance in Michael Lewis's The Big Short

1:12.0

or from countless media appearances and talks that he's given

1:16.0

over the years.

1:18.1

What's perhaps less widely known is that he is also a founding member of the Committee on the Present Danger, China,

1:25.6

which is a nonpartisan group whose stated mission is to help defend America

1:30.8

through public education and advocacy against the dangers posed by the People's

1:36.7

Republic of China under the rule of the Chinese Communist Party, which it views as an existential and ideological threat to the United States

1:47.0

and to Western liberal democracies and values.

1:51.8

Regular listeners to this show will know that I've devoted a number of

1:56.4

episodes to China, to understanding its banking system, to understanding the

2:01.5

complex web of relationships between the Chinese Communist Party

2:06.0

and its corporate state champions, as well as to the vast Chinese bureaucracy that governs over

2:12.3

1.4 billion people.

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