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Okay. Do these celebrities deserve the grief that they get? It does seem like sometimes we get a celebrity and everybody just starts piling on. It becomes a popular thing.

Now, I would tell you, I think there's a celebrity out there right now that is just taking a lot of heat for everything that they do.

And I'm not sure that it's so deserved Katie Perry.

I disagree, dog.

I so disagree.

I don't think she's done anything terribly wrong.

She is.

She is cringy, but she's not evil.

Right, exactly.

And I think that the level of vitriol she's getting doesn't match her cringiness.

You're right, Kevin.

You guys have not done the deep dive.

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