The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

Hi guys, I'm Emma.

And I'm Julie.

And welcome back to another episode of our Kardashian bonus show.

Hey, Joel.

Hi, I'm.

Okay, we are majorly switching gears here.

We're now back at keeping up season 12, episode one. It's funny that you started this with saying majorly switching gears here. We're now back at keeping up season 12 episode one.

It's funny that you started this with saying majorly switching gears because we are,

but I was going to start by saying to you, I know there's so much going on in this episode and

this was the least of it. But one of my biggest takeaways was what a pleasure it was to

watch the dynamic between Courtney Kim and Chloe.

Oh, a dream. I mean, Courtney was also in a specifically amazing phase here.

Yes. I really, when I think about like my favorite era of Courtney, it's this one.

No, I'm actually so glad you said that because I was thinking in last week's episode, like when we were doing the season seven finale recap, when we were talking about the Chloe and Courtney conversation, I realized I never said this.

Not that it was overly relevant here, but I do just want to say, like, even in these moments when Courtney is feeling peak frustrating, it is never lost on me just how much

she gave this show for so many years.

You know, like she really did put the show on her back for a long time.

And it is so important that that is never lost in all of this.

I completely agree, which is why I always feel like if you want to not film the show, you don't have to.

Like, you have given us so much.

And if the show is not bringing you that piece that you wanted to bring and that's an aspect of this current reaction or this current feeling, then like, let's step away from it.

...