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Hi guys, I'm Emma.

And I'm Julie.

And welcome back to another episode of our Kardashian bonus show.

Hey, Joel.

Hi, I am.

Okay, so we have reached a very pivotal moment in Kardashians because essentially in the middle of season 10,

there is a two episodes special that documents the beginning of Caitlin's transition and

really sharing that with the family and also with the world, which I want to give a moment of

timeline context. This episode aired May 17th and 18th,

2015. Caitlin's interview with Diane Sawyer, which at the time was, I mean, you guys know if you,

if you were there for you know how big of a deal that was at the time, was April 24th. So this came out

about a month after the Diane Sawyer interview. And then that Vanity Fair cover that was titled,

Call Me, Caitlin, the first image was released June 1st, 2015. The full article was released June 9th,

2015. So what we're seeing here was filmed around two weeks before the Diane Sawyer interview. So this entire time was, let's say,

April to June, 2015 of the world being introduced to, you know, Caitlin. You know, obviously when you

intro this, you said, like we're at a pivotal point in Kardashians. And something that happens a lot as we go through these episodes ised this, you said, like, we're at a pivotal point in Kardashians.

And something that happens a lot as we go through these episodes is kind of distinguishing

what's a pivotal point in specifically Kardashians and being a Kardashian viewer?

And what is a pivotal point that's that very strong intersection between Kardashians and

overall pop culture.

And this is one of those moments that was just pivotal overall.

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