What's up everybody? Welcome into the next Pats podcast. I'm Phil Perry coming at you once again from Super Bowl 57 on Radio Row here in

Phoenix, Arizona. We've got a couple great guests that I think you're going to love in this

edition of NextPats. We're going to start out with the Hall of Famer friend of the NextPats podcast.

Kurt Warner brings phenomenal insight yet again on what's going on with the Patriots right now.

Why things should be different with Bill O'Brien now that he's in the fold to help Mack Jones along in year three?

What is Mack Jones's ceiling Kurt Warner dishes on that as well as how he feels Bill Belichick has done his job

over the course of the last three years since Tom Brady has departed?

We're also talking to pro football focuses Steve Palitzolo to get the analytics perspective on where the Patriots are at right now. But first, let's get to our conversation with Kurt Warner. All right, very happy now to have with us, Hall of Famer, Kurt Warner. Kurt, thanks so much for being with us. You got it. Good to be here. Kurt, I remember talking to you midseason this past season, watching the Patriots, and you telling us, it just felt like some of the details offensively for them were lacking.

Now that we know Bill O'Brien is coming in to be offensive coordinator for the Patriots, how do you think things will change having an experienced guy in that role?

Well, I mean, I think, and you hope the first thing is that, you know, Bill sits down with Mac and goes, okay, what did you like? What didn't you like? Why didn't you like it? You know, or, you know, maybe there's just a complete overall. Maybe they're not going to do anything that they did this past year. But whatever it is, you want to sit down with your quarterback and go, I want to know what you're comfortable with, what you see, why you did certain things.

Because I just, I never believe a quarterback can play to his highest potential, that he never plays confident football.

If he doesn't truly believe in what you're doing and why you're doing it.

And, you know, and I felt like that at times last year is that,

you know, we all saw it.

Mac didn't look like the Mac from a year before.

And even on some of the simplest concepts

that you just sit back and go, okay, why?

Why can you not read the simplest concepts, you know,

which I know you can do?

I've seen you do it.

Why can you not do it this year,

even though you did it

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