All right, welcome back to an entirely U.S. based edition of Hollinger and Duncan. I'm Nate Duncan. I have no real credentials. John Hollinger has many real credentials.

Worked in the front office for the Memphis Grizzlies for seven years and one of the godfathers of NBA analytics. But you never had to pull me back in. I was always, I was always in. So, I don't know. Who actually says that? What is, what is that actual reference to Godfather? Do you know? Like, once I think I'm out, you pull me back in. Oh, I only know it. I only know it from Seinfeld. I can't, I mean, I've seen the movie, but I guess it's just like that specific moment past five. I don't remember. I actually thought that was, see, I think of that as good fellas. Oh, well, maybe that is. Do I just have this totally wrong? I don't know. I, I, generally, if it involves movie, I am the wrong person to ask, but, uh, yes. Oh, no, it's from Godfather part three, which I have not seen.

That's the one with the Ewoks, right?

It might as well have been, for what I understand, having not seen it.

Okay.

Godfather part three, the search for more money.

Yes.

Oh, that's baseballs. Okay. Well, we got a lot of stuff to catch up on here. We've had all of the early camp news, all of the, oh, by the way, this guy had a surgery that we had no idea about. Oh, there was a lot of that this week, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll get to all of those. Did you ever have that, by the way, where a guy came in and like, did you, like, was it ever the case where you're like, oh, wait, this guy actually is not ready to play. Have you ever experienced that? At a shape wise, yes. Injury wise, I can't, I can't remember one. Parsons was healthy.

I was going to say, not even with Parsons.

Yeah.

So, no, I don't have one of those where it was just like the guy showed up.

It was just like, yeah, he's hurt.

Or we were like, yeah, let's not tell anyone about the surgery for a while. There weren't any of those either. Like, like, we took, we took, actually the Grizzlies still do that now, right? You get the mid-July bulletin like, hey, guess what? Memphis Grizzlies off-season injury update in your email. You're like, oh, no, let's see what this is. Yeah. is yeah well the crews have gotten a little bit more transparent over the years they've had a lot of

practice um yeah really really yeah i mean i've always felt like philly is the least

transparent charlotte under the radar uh is will give you nothing uh like going back to like

the mark williams thing so uh but yeah philly i mean i think though with that article that came out is will give you nothing. Like going back to like the Mark Williams thing.

So, but yeah, Philly, I mean, I think though with that article that came out over the summer,

I think a lot of that is just driven by what Joelle wants rather than even necessarily what the organization wants.

Yeah.

I mean, it's when you're dealing with your star players, it's just a different process than it is with the other 14 guys.

And that's just how it works.

All right.

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