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Hey guys, welcome back to the podcast where we talk all things Dancing with the Stars.

Since there's no live DWTS episode this week, we've decided to treat our loyal listeners with a special bonus episode.

So with all the buzz surrounding season 33, it's only fitting that we bring you an extra dose of our fan favorite

DWTS headlines and hot topics that seem to keep rolling in by the hour. However, for the

following week, get ready for two different recap episodes that will drop next Tuesday and Wednesday

as I'll be recapping next week's live shows, double live shows. And now let me introduce our guest for today,

a true DWTS insider. You know her, you love her, and she's our go-to guru when it comes to

all things, DWTS, Kristen Burt. So have you been in the live audience, Kristen? Welcome back,

first of all. Thanks for having me. Yes, I went to

premiere week. What was the real reaction in the ballroom when Anna Delvey came out last? Oh, yeah,

I talked about this. You know, when Carrie Ann made her comment just saying people went silent,

and I said, you know what? I didn't even notice that at all

oh my this was my thought about all of this is that Anna went last and right before her was

Stephen at Arrasic Stephen and Riley are the most popular couple this season are rock stars

and whomever went next, right? Following them.

It was going to be screwed. They were not only going to be screwed, but it was also just going to be

quieter. And sure, maybe there was a bit of curiosity of like, what is Anna going to deliver? But at the

same time, I don't think it was necessarily directed at Anna and Ezra per se.

I think it was more of a, just a transition from like the rock star that, you know,

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