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Tell me about this thing that happens sometimes between our appointments where

feeling ambivalent about coming, you come, we have a really good appointment, lots of

stuff shifts, settles a week, sometimes two weeks go by.

What's happening to that cycle between appointments?

It's getting longer, like, I think. Today I was kind of like, I don't feel this need of like,

I've got to get there so that I can like get through the next two weeks. Yeah. That didn't really

happen this time. So that's good. On the other side of that, it's like, I feel like invisible in a way, right?

Hi, I'm Hilary McBride and this is other people's problems.

Here's a therapy session with a client we're calling Kristen.

For so much of Kristen's life, there has been the experience of feeling isolated or lonely. And as Kristen and I have been working together,

we've been trying to tease out what are the spaces where she's actually been lonely and

misunderstood? And what are the spaces in her life where she's kept herself alone? Where she has felt

like she needed to be on the inside because it was too

scary to be in friendship or in vulnerability with someone else. What you hear in this audio

is something that's very characteristic of my style of doing therapy. We're using what's

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