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House Judiciary Committee Oversight hearings are meant to hold federal agencies accountable,

but the latest involving Homeland Security Secretary, Christy Knoem, have become a flashpoint in the debate over immigration enforcement.

Hello and welcome to USA Today's The Excerpt. I'm Dana Taylor. Today is Thursday, March 5th,

2026. While Noam had staunch support from Republicans on the Oversight Committee,

Democratic lawmakers grilled her on several controversial issues, including the shooting deaths of two

Americans during a federal operation

and allegations that the Department of Homeland Security has obstructed oversight investigations.

Joining me now to break down yesterday's hearing is USA Today National News reporter,

Lauren Villagran. It's always good to have you on the show, Lauren.

Thanks, Dana.

Lauren, a lot of the questions centered on the tactics ISIS using, including concerns about large-scale raids and arrests and operations at or near schools.

How did Noem defend those practices?

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christine Noem has said over and over from the get-go

that ICE is performing targeted enforcement, searching for the quote-unquote worst of the worst.

Criminals, people who have a criminal background, a serious criminal background. But Dana, you know, we've seen from immigration

researchers, immigrant advocates and attorneys around the country that that just isn't true. The

widespread immigration enforcement that we've seen around the nation from Los Angeles to

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