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Kristen Wagoner is the CEO, President, and General Counsel of Alliance Defending Freedom.

She leads this faith-based legal organization in protecting fundamental freedoms and promoting the inherent

dignity of all people throughout the United States and around the world.

We're thrilled to have her back with us on takeaways.

Kristen, thanks so much for joining us.

Well, thanks for having me.

Kristen, there's been a lot of talk recently about religious liberty. I've been running into and bumping up against this issue myself, and we want to talk more about it because I think it's becoming mission critical that we understand our rights that lead to liberty in the United States, or we could actually lose them. So could we start by you explaining to us,

what does the term religious liberty mean in America today? It should mean the freedom to be able

to speak and to live consistent with our convictions. It doesn't just apply to the Christian religion.

It applies to other convictions, religious convictions, and faiths as well.

But it is about the limitation on government not to force us to do things and to say things

that violate our faith, which is our duty to God. So how has this definition of religious

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