Hi, I'm Otto. Welcome to Ellen Zell's puttcast.

Okay, I'm really excited about this episode.

Well, we don't need to explain who Chris Jenner is to anybody.

Do you think people might need an intro on her?

Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what was interesting.

We tried to have... I mean, first of all,

you don't really hear her on a lot of podcasts.

I searched because I wanted to sort of see what her podcast vibe was.

We wanted to talk to her about things that, you know,

maybe we are perspectives that we've maybe never heard.

Yeah, you know, I wanted to see a different side of Chris.

I tried to push some questions that maybe you wouldn't see her answering normally.

Because in this day and age, with people on social media,

you know, you have a pretty big window into who everyone is.

And so on their show.

And the show, that's a great point.

So I think people do have a really a strong idea

of who they think that she is based on her reality show for the last 20 years.

And they're so open.

But there's always...

There's always mysteriousness about her.

Yeah, there's always things you can ask.

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