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They say that it takes 10 years to make a good calligraphy.

And when I heard that during my first year, I thought,

oh no, I'm never going to make it.

This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman from design observer.com.

On this episode Debbie talks with calligraphy and typeface designer Chris Holmes,

the co-creator of the Lucida typeface family.

Well the funnest one is lowercase gee. You think that would be hard because it's all

curves, but you kind of can't go wrong with it. The interview took place in March 2019 in New York

City as part of a Type Drives Culture Conference.

Here's Debbie, first with a word from our sponsors, then with her live interview with

Chris Holmes.

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