Krash Patel, The FBI In Its Trash Era, and National Security by Temu

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News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

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🗓️ 21 April 2026

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Rick Wilson sits down with Andrew McCabe to unpack the stunning politicization of the Federal Bureau of Investigation under Kash Patel, the firing of 12 counterintelligence agents tied to the Mar-a-Lago documents case, and the staggering national security consequences of purging Iran specialists as conflict escalates. Drawing from McCabe’s new CNN series Standoff: The FBI, Power and Paranoia, Rick and McCabe expose how paranoia, incompetence, and political loyalty tests are corroding America’s premier law enforcement institution from the inside. This is a conversation about weaponized government, self-inflicted chaos, and what happens when you fire the people who know where the threats are—right as those threats become real
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2:19.4	Hey, everybody. I'm Rick Wilson. Thanks for joining us once again on the Lincoln Project
2:22.6	Podcast. I'm your host as always. And today I am delighted to be joined by Andrew McCabe.
2:27.4	Andrew, not only was a guy who played a key role in the FBI, but now is the host of a phenomenal
2:33.6	new series on CNN called Standoff.
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