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The Breakdown

Kraken’s Dan Held on What’s Different About Bitcoin At $10k This Time

The Breakdown

Blockworks

Investing, Business

4.8806 Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2020

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Bitcoin is on a 7 week upward trend. Having already smashed through its $9,000 Vegeta memes, it is now inching closer towards $10k.    On this episode, @nlw is joined by Kraken’s Dan Held to discuss how bitcoin has changed in a number of ways since the last time we were at the $10,000 price level last year. They look at: Narrative - Speculation around bitcoin as a safe haven and the role of the halvening continue to shape the conversation Infrastructure - The tools for how people can interact with bitcoin - from lending to derivatives - have never been broader  Audience - Institutions are no longer just around the corner but actively participating in the market

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0:00.0

Welcome back to The Breakdown, an everyday analysis breaking down the most important stories in Bitcoin, crypto, and beyond, with your host, NLW.

0:15.0

The Breakdown is distributed by CoinDesk.

0:20.0

Welcome back to The Breakdown. It is Friday, February 7th, and today we're doing

0:26.0

something a little different. So we're recording a day early, so I'm not exactly sure where the

0:30.9

price is today as you're listening to this on Friday. But for the last month, we've seen steadily

0:35.3

increasing Bitcoin prices, and we are now nudging

0:38.4

up against the edge of 10,000.

0:41.2

We got up as high today at the time of this recording as 9,800.

0:45.8

And I think that that barrier of 10,000 is a really interesting psychological barrier.

0:50.8

It's a really interesting context, I think, in which to look back at the last year or so

0:56.7

since we previously saw 10,000, and ask what has changed, what has evolved, what is different

1:03.3

about the crypto markets and the Bitcoin industry specifically since the last time we were

1:09.6

here.

1:10.7

And so I invited Dan Held to join me in that

1:13.6

conversation. Dan has been around the block with Bitcoin. He has started multiple Bitcoin

1:19.0

businesses, including recently Interchange, which was acquired by Cracken. He is now in BD at Cracken

1:25.9

and thinking about Bitcoin in that context.

1:28.3

And so we talk about a few things all in this, how Bitcoin has changed since the last time

1:33.3

we were at 10,000 lens.

1:35.3

We talk about first how the narratives have changed, whether Bitcoin is a speculative store-of-value

1:42.3

asset, a speculative macro asset, and what that means.

1:46.0

We talk a little bit about the having narrative and whether it's priced in or not, and what that means.

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