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KQED Youth Takeover: Deliberative Democracy Puts Dialogue and Reason at Center of Decision Making

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KQED

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.2726 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In today’s intensely polarized climate, political conversations can quickly devolve into heated arguments. But a process called deliberative democracy has found success convening people from across the political spectrum for informed, reasoned dialogue on contentious issues. As part of KQED’s Youth Takeover week, high school students Ryan Heshmati and Anaya Ertz bring together the head of Stanford’s Deliberative Democracy Lab with people who have brought deliberative techniques to local government to discuss how we can put dialogue and reason at the center of decision-making. Guests: Ryan Heshmati, senior, Saratoga High School Anaya Ertz, junior, Marin Academy James Fishkin, professor of international communication, Stanford University; director, Deliberative Democracy Lab Claudia Chwalisz, founder and CEO, DemocracyNext Rahmin Sarabi, founder and director, American Public Trust Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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From KQED in San Francisco, I'm Alexis Madrigal.

1:14.6

You know, our political discourse, even here at the local level, has gotten pretty nasty.

1:19.1

On the key issues in our city's housing, homelessness, schools, public safety, the debates have gotten meaner,

1:26.6

and yet we don't seem any closer to actually

1:29.1

solving the deep problems of our region. Two members of KQED's Youth Advisory Board, high school

1:35.6

students, have a suggestion for something that might help. It's called deliberative democracy,

1:40.9

and we're going to spend this next hour, learning what it is and how to put it

1:45.0

into practice. That's all coming up next, right after this news.

2:13.7

Welcome to Forum. I'm Alexis Madrigal. I know it's hard to believe in democracy right now, in large part because it feels like it's under attack at the national level and perhaps just failing us at the local one.

2:18.6

But today we're going to look at some alternative ways of thinking about and doing democracy, including at least one case in which it's been implemented here in the Bay Area.

2:24.5

This show is part of our annual showcase of Bay Area High Schoolers, which we call

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