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No jumper, coolest podcasts on the world.

And today I'm having to sit down with a guy that I met.

And let me just explain how I found out about you and what your story is,

is that my neighbor hit me up and sent me a TikTok that you had made about your experience with that Piff.

And he just said, this is a podcast I would watch.

Watch the TikTok.

I was like, okay.

If only for my neighbor, I got to do this podcast because I'm very interested as well.

So, uh, today, KP, coming through.

Yeah.

Let's get into it.

So, okay, let's do like the abbreviated version of how you even got to the point of

starting that Piff and being involved with all that in the first place.

What was your experience before that?

I think growing up, I was always super interested in like the bootleg culture.

I know that's kind of like a bad negative word, right?

But for so many of us, that was critical, whether it was like buying mixtapes from the corner store

or downloading stuff off napster and stuff

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