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Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

Kouri Richins: When Immunity Witnesses Contradict Themselves — Panel Breaks Down the Defense Strategy

Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

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🗓️ 15 March 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Carmen Lauber came in meth-positive. Robert Crozier contradicted his own sworn affidavit. Both are immunity witnesses the prosecution is leaning on hard—and both changed their accounts under prosecutorial pressure. At what point does that dynamic create more risk for the prosecution than the defense? This Hidden Killers Week In Review brings together former FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke, defense attorney Bob Motta, and host Tony Brueski for the panel discussion no one else is having.

The prosecution has put nearly forty witnesses on the stand. Two mistrial motions have already been filed. Bob Motta breaks down what the shape of this defense tells us—and whether the strategy makes sense when the evidence is this heavy. How do you attack a three-pillar circumstantial case—debt, fentanyl access, and a deteriorating marriage—without looking like you're dismissing each piece individually and hoping the jury doesn't connect the dots?

Robin addresses the behavioral reality of escalation: Kouri allegedly asked for "the Michael Jackson drug" after the first attempt failed. What does it take for someone to fail at something like this and immediately seek a more lethal method? That's not panic—Robin explains what it actually is.

He also takes on the children's book. In his FBI career, has he seen a behavioral move that audacious? What does it communicate about how this individual manages her public identity under pressure? If you strip the children's book out of this case entirely, does the defense even look the same?

And the human question: Eric Richins suspected something. His friends knew. His sister hired a PI. He'd met with a divorce attorney. He told his family: if I die, look at her. How does someone walk through all those warnings—and still end up dead?

Kouri Richins has pleaded not guilty.

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This is the big breakdown. A long look back at some of the biggest stories we're covering

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for you at the Hidden Killers podcast and True Crime Today.

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This is Hidden Killers Live with True Crime Today. This is Hidden Tiller's Live with Tony Bruske and Robin Drey.

1:17.6

Corey Richens on trial for the murder of her husband, Eric Richens.

1:23.2

She allegedly fed him a Moscow mule laced with what she referred to as the Michael Jackson stuff.

1:31.7

It wasn't Propofal. It was fentanyl.

1:34.0

She didn't really know what she was getting.

1:35.5

And apparently neither did the housekeeper or the guy that she bought it from.

1:38.7

But he's dead.

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And she's on trial.

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