Kouri Richins Trial: What the Evidence Actually Proved — Full Breakdown
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Tony Brueski
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🗓️ 16 March 2026
⏱️ 73 minutes
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Summary
The Kouri Richins murder trial is heading into closing arguments with both sides rested. For five weeks, jurors have sat through testimony about a forged life insurance signature, a housekeeper who bought drugs at a gas station, a secret affair, a ghostwritten children's grief book, and a jail cell letter that prosecutors say was a script for false testimony.
What did all of it actually prove?
True Crime Today presents the full three-part listener Q&A breakdown of the Kouri Richins trial — featuring defense attorney Bob Motta and retired FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke. Across three conversations, they tackle the most important questions this case raises: whether the circumstantial evidence is strong enough to convict without a single physical trace of the poison, whether the defense's destruction of Carmen Lauber's credibility created real doubt or just confusion, and what the complete behavioral picture of this case tells us about how it ends.
Real questions from real listeners. Straight answers before the verdict.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Tiller's Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Green. |
| 0:09.0 | All right, I'm really excited to see what you guys think about what's going on here in the Corey Richens trial as the defense rested without calling a single witness after nearly three weeks of prosecution |
| 0:23.0 | testimony. Her attorneys took an hour to confer with her. They sat down. They had a couple |
| 0:29.6 | sandwiches, little, little soft drink and decided, you know what? No witnesses. Nothing. We're done. |
| 0:41.2 | No alternative theory. We're good. Closing arguments come Monday. You guys have had a lot of questions about what this means and what the jury just |
| 0:46.6 | absorbed. So today we're doing a Q&A episode about Corey Richens. And we're also later on |
| 0:52.0 | going to be talking about the Lincoln Snelling case as well. That's the cheerleader, the 19-year-old who gave birth to her son, put him in a plastic bag and went to McDonald's. |
| 1:06.4 | Yes, that winner. We'll talk about that a little bit later on. But we're going to start off with Corey Richens because that's the big thing today and what's going on there. So leave your questions in the comments. Actually, we're going to try and get to them. We're going to address a lot of them. I grabbed a whole bunch of them from our videos over the week. And we're going to kind of break all this down. Robin Drake, retired FBI special agent, chief of the counterintelligence behavioral analysis program, |
| 1:34.1 | and co-host of this very program is obviously with us. So, Robin, we live this. My goodness. What was your reaction? I mean, I texted you yesterday afternoon when this |
| 1:40.5 | is all going down. I'm like, oh my God, I think it's like, holy shit, they arrested. |
| 1:45.8 | What was your reaction? What was your thoughts when you found that out? |
| 1:49.7 | Shock. And then, and for everyone tuning in, you know, Todd, me and Tony, we just don't stop doing |
| 1:57.6 | us. Like, we're talking about this all night long, too. It's crazy. And my initial reaction besides surprise was, you know me, I use these visual analogies all the time. |
| 2:09.0 | And the analogy I had in my head that popped in there is like, I'm watching this really, |
| 2:13.4 | really compelling series and season one. |
| 2:17.8 | Season one was a prosecution. |
| 2:20.3 | You knew and you were told by the network that season two was guaranteed and then there'd |
| 2:25.8 | be a well-written finale. |
| 2:28.5 | And all of sudden, at the end of season one, the cliffhangers there, and all of sudden |
| 2:32.1 | season two got canceled. |
| 2:33.9 | But we're still going to do the finale without a season two. And you're like, what the freaking hell? I mean, you know, we have such good, you know, Tony, we have such good people on show between, you know, Bob Mata and Eric, you know, our two attorneys, they made me excited. Normally I'm not excited. Just let's put her in jail or something. But they made |
| 2:51.6 | me really excited here what the fence had. But it really made for a lot of more research on our end |
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