Kouri Richins Trial Day 5: Carmen Lauber — Another Day, Another Round of Cross Part 2
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Tony Brueski
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🗓️ 27 February 2026
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Summary
The Kouri Richins trial brings back Carmen Lauber, Former Richins Housekeeper, to the stand in this segment.
The Kouri Richins murder trial continues in Utah as the state prosecutes the children's book author for allegedly poisoning her husband Eric Richins with fentanyl. Prosecutors allege she killed him for insurance money after secretly increasing his policy to $1.9 million. The defense maintains Eric died from accidental drug use.
True Crime Today delivers real-time trial coverage as it happens—key testimony, critical cross-examinations, and the moments that matter. No waiting for nightly recaps. Watch the case unfold live.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to continuing coverage from the trial of Corey Richards, from the Hidden Killers podcast and true crime today. |
| 0:08.4 | Now, back to the courtroom. |
| 0:13.4 | Ms. Lauber, you're still under oath. |
| 0:16.2 | Ms. Lewis, please proceed. |
| 0:19.2 | All right. |
| 0:19.5 | We just finished going through the interview you had with the U.S. Attorney's Office. |
| 0:25.6 | Right? Correct. |
| 0:27.6 | Okay. It's a little painful, but we got there. |
| 0:30.6 | Yes. A little confusing. |
| 0:33.6 | Well, all right. Yes, I know. I'm sorry. But let's just summarize that interview and then we'll move on. So in that interview, you told them that you bought pills from Susan Kohler one time, that you bought pills from Robert Crozier two times, and that you bought the same pills from Robert Crozier on each occasion. Correct? |
| 0:55.0 | Correct. |
| 0:56.0 | All right. |
| 0:57.0 | And in that interview, you said that the pills were left at the Midway House, either in the fireplace or in a cup in a closet. |
| 1:04.0 | Correct. |
| 1:05.0 | Correct. |
| 1:06.0 | All right. And you don't know who picked up the pills from the Midway House, correct? |
| 1:10.0 | No, I do not. So you don't know if the Midway House, correct? No, I do not. |
| 1:11.2 | So you don't know if Corey picked them up, correct? |
| 1:15.4 | No, I do not. |
| 1:16.4 | Or if Eric Richens picked them up? |
| 1:19.0 | No, I do not. |
| 1:19.9 | I do not know who picked them up. |
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