Kouri Richins: Prosecution's Drug Witnesses Contradict Each Other Under Oath
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🗓️ 4 March 2026
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Summary
The prosecution's fentanyl supply chain just hit a major credibility problem in the Kouri Richins trial. Robert Crozier testified he only sold oxycodone to Carmen Lauber—not fentanyl—because "everybody was scared of fentanyl" at the time. That directly contradicts what Lauber told the jury. When your two drug-chain witnesses can't agree on what the drugs actually were, the entire theory starts to crumble.
Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke sit down with defense attorney Bob Motta to analyze the prosecution's mounting problems. Dr. Erik Christensen—the state's own former Chief Medical Examiner—admitted on the stand that Eric Richins' death certificate still lists manner of death as "undetermined." Not homicide. After four years of investigation, the man who performed the analysis can't definitively say this was murder.
The jury heard a nine-minute recording of Kouri calling the medical examiner's office asking about fentanyl levels, how it might have been ingested, and the Seroquel found in Eric's system. The prosecution wants jurors to see consciousness of guilt. Bob Motta explains why the defense sees something entirely different—a grieving widow seeking answers about her husband's death.
Motta analyzes the significance of the Midway property timeline, where Carmen Lauber claims she buried fentanyl in a fire pit during a window when the house sat vacant. He examines what the presence of "a lot" of Seroquel in Eric's blood might mean for the case. And he identifies exactly what the prosecution must accomplish in the remaining weeks to make their theory viable.
No fentanyl has ever been found in the Richins home. The drug witnesses are contradicting each other. The medical examiner won't call it homicide. Is this case already in trouble?
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Dree. |
| 0:09.0 | The prosecution in the Corey Richens trial played a bombshell recording the other day. |
| 0:16.6 | Cory Richens calling the medical examiner's office asking detailed questions about the substances found in Eric's body. |
| 0:25.4 | But that same witness, Dr. Eric Christensen, made damaging admissions under cross-examination. |
| 0:30.9 | Meanwhile, the state's drug chain witnesses are contradicting each other and no fentanyl has ever been found in the Richens home. |
| 0:38.6 | We are going to dive into right now what is going on in the prosecution of Corey Richens, |
| 0:44.6 | and then we'll discuss the defense of Cory Richens and how that's playing out. |
| 0:49.5 | Joining Robin and myself, Robin Drake, retired FBI special agency for the counterintelligence behavioral analysis |
| 0:55.9 | program is Bob Mata, defense attorney. Bob, welcome. This has been such an interesting case so far. |
| 1:04.9 | It's had its moments, I feel like on both sides where you go, oh, oh, and you just kind of keep going, oh, it's back and forth |
| 1:14.1 | quite a bit. But one of the things that we've recently seen, like I said, was that phone call. |
| 1:20.2 | I want to talk about that, the phone call to the medical expert, the examiner that Dr. Eric Christensen. |
| 1:28.3 | It was an interesting phone call. |
| 1:30.3 | If you've not had a chance to hear it, |
| 1:32.3 | if it's obviously available out there online, |
| 1:35.3 | and she gets into wanting to know information about |
| 1:38.3 | exactly how much of this drug fentanyl killed Eric, |
| 1:42.3 | the different types of it. |
| 1:43.3 | At one point, she's confused about a prescription that's actually her own prescription |
| 1:47.8 | that was in Eric's body. |
| 1:50.5 | She can't quite pronounce it. |
| 1:52.1 | What was your take on that phone call? |
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