Kouri Richins: FBI & Psychotherapist on the Mind Behind the Manipulation
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
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🗓️ 12 March 2026
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
The Kouri Richins trial has built a case fact by fact, witness by witness. But the behavioral picture underneath it — how someone allegedly operates this way for years across an entire social world, what it does to the people who love them, and where it all starts — that takes a different kind of analysis.
Tony Brueski brings psychotherapist Shavaun Scott and retired FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke into three complete panel conversations examining the full psychological scope of this case.
The first conversation tackles the alleged exploitation the trial has documented in granular detail — every person prosecutors say was used and what they lost, and the psychological mechanics that allegedly made it invisible until it was too late. The second examines the Richins family's experience — the instinct they carried, the years of fighting to be believed, and the specific psychological weight of grief that confirms what you always feared was true. The third goes to the root: Kouri's own history, what a chaotic upbringing does to someone's decision-making decades down the road, and what five children are now inheriting from all of it.
This is the psychological portrait the case demands — and the conversation most coverage is still not having.
Kouri Richins has pleaded not guilty and is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
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| 1:01.9 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Green. |
| 1:09.8 | One of the most chilling threads running through the Corey Richens case isn't necessarily the crime itself. |
| 1:18.2 | It's the trail of people she left financially and emotionally hollowed out along the way. |
| 1:26.5 | A boyfriend whose professional connection, she allegedly leveraged, |
| 1:31.0 | friends who watched their savings evaporate after trusting her. This is a pattern that goes far beyond |
| 1:38.6 | bad decision making. What we're looking at is a psychological operating system. Most people can't even recognize |
| 1:45.8 | until they're already inside of it. And we're going to be breaking this down this morning. |
| 1:50.6 | As always, Robin Drake, my co-host, former FBI Special Agency for the Counterintelligence |
| 1:55.8 | Behavioral Analysis Program. And Chavon Scott is with us today, psychotherapist and author. As always, welcome everybody. |
| 2:04.4 | Let's start by talking about Corey's boyfriend, Josh Grossman. He testified that his relationship |
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