Hello everybody, this is Tooth and Claw Podcast. How we do it? I'm good. West is a wildlife biologist, and he found his degree. I proved it.

Yeah, what was we haven't verified? We haven't verified it. I'd like to get my hands on it.

Next time I see you guys I will let you touch it. I had a listener write in asking, have you seen it in person?

And it got me thinking. Well, I'll let you guys see it in person next time. I guess this doesn't count, but it counts.

I'm just saying there's still a bit of doubt. It's pretty much definitive now that you're a wildlife biologist.

Go ahead. You know another way you could verify that is go to Google Scholar, type in Wesley Larson Bears, and a couple peer reviewed publications are going to come up. And that's another way you'll know.

Mike, how can we verify that you are who we always say you are?

Producer. Are you a producer? You can try googling Mike Smith and get a lot of different results, but I'm probably somewhere in there.

And your middle name is like Dave or something, too, right?

Dude, you can't give that that kind of information. Mike Dave Smith.

People are going to show up at my front stuff now.

So I just inherited a bunch of fly tying stuff from my grandpa who's been pass free me and Wes's grandpa obviously.

Yeah, who's been pass free a few years now.

And I was digging through it today. And it's just like 10,000 types of bird feathers.

It's like silver, well, me. And he has like six total flies that he ever made.

And it got me thinking fly fishing, I feel like it's the ultimate.

Someone just buys all the equipment or just keeps buying equipment, but like never goes.

Like fish much. Yeah, I would agree.

I say ultimate, right? Michael, Mike's in my mind now.

You kind of you kind of you did pretty good there. Sometimes you say ultimate, but you did.

Yeah, you did pretty good there. Ultimate. Yeah.

What's the ad? Is it one of the ads I have to say as like the last bird in my mind.

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