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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

KOHBERGER "GETS AWAY WITH MURDER?" 2 MYSTERY MEN'S BLOOD-DNA AT MURDER SCENE

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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True Crime, News

4.28.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Bryan Kohberger’s attorneys say investigators found blood from an unknown man on a handrail in the victims' home and another person's DNA on a glove outside. Anne Taylor argues this could indicate Kohberger's lack of involvement in the crime. Although court filings acknowledged the unknown DNA samples last year, they did not disclose that at least two of the samples were from blood.

During Kohberger’s last hearing, Taylor accused authorities of withholding information, saying police did not disclose the unidentified blood when obtaining a search warrant for Kohberger's arrest. She argues this omission should invalidate some evidence collected during the search because it was not properly authorized.

Kohberger's attorneys also allege the FBI illegally obtained his DNA, violating the Fourth Amendment's protection against illegal searches and seizures. They argue that submitting Kohberger’s DNA to a public ancestry database was improper because law enforcement cannot legally use the site. The attorneys also claim that police did not submit two other blood samples from the scene to the FBI’s DNA database due to eligibility issues and failed to inform the magistrate judge about them. Taylor argues this omission should disqualify some of the evidence obtained

Joining Nancy Grace today: 

  • Philip Dubé  - Court-Appointed Counsel, Los Angeles County Public Defenders: Criminal & Constitutional Law; Forensics & Mental Health Advocacy
  • Dr. Shari Schwartz  - Forensic Psychologist (specializing in Capital Mitigation and Victim Advocacy); X: https://twitter.com/TrialDoc; Author: "Criminal Behavior" and "Where Law and Psychology Intersect: Issues in Legal Psychology"
  • Chris McDonough - Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective; Host of YouTube channel, "The Interview Room"
  • Scott Eicher - A founding member of the FBI’s Cellular Analysis Survey Team (C.A.S.T),Currently with Precision Cellular Analysis handling Criminal, Defense and Civil Cases
  • Dr. James Williams  -  Leading courtroom expert on firing squads; an Emergency Room Physician and a Bioidentical Hormone Therapy practitioner at Anahata Wellness Center; anahatahormones.com
  • Dr. Thomas Coyne - Chief Medical Examiner, District 2 Medical Examiner's Office, State of Florida; Forensic Pathologist, Neuropathologist, Toxicologist; X: @DrTMCoyne
  • Joseph Scott Morgan  - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University; Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet"; Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan";  X @JoScottForensic
  • Howard Blum  - Author: "When The Night Comes Falling, A Requiem for The Idaho Student Murders";  Website: Howardblum.com  INSTA: howard_blum_author ; TW/X: howardblum
  • Sydney Sumner -  CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

0:06.5

Brian Coburger to get away with murder.

0:11.3

This, after two mystery men's blood DNA found at the murder scene.

0:20.1

I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime stories. Thank you for being with us.

0:24.3

At this hour, the defense attorney, a fleet of lawyers, as a matter of fact, representing

0:31.0

Brian Coburger charged in the quadruple sleigh of four beautiful University Idaho students, the defense team

0:40.5

arguing two mystery men's DNA found at the scene and therefore they argue nothing at the scene

0:52.0

incriminates their client, Brian Coburger.

0:56.6

Whoa, wait a minute.

0:57.8

What about Coburger's DNA on the knife sheath, the murder weapon, the sheath of the

1:06.5

murder weapon under one of the victim's dead bodies.

1:11.6

Rutt Row.

1:13.6

That said, listen to this.

1:16.6

Brian Coburger's attorney say blood from an unknown man was found on a handrail in the victim's home,

1:22.6

and another's DNA was found on a glove outside.

1:26.6

Ann Taylor says this could mean Coburger is not related to the crime at all.

1:31.3

In Coburger's last hearing, Taylor criticized authorities saying police did not disclose the

1:36.3

unidentified blood when obtaining a search warrant for Coburgers' arrest.

1:41.3

Taylor argues this should disqualify some evidence collected in that search,

1:45.4

as it was not properly authorized. Okay, let's just kick it off. That's a lie. Number one,

1:53.0

that DNA was disclosed over a year ago in the state's filings.

2:06.5

Anne Taylor, all you have to do is read the filings like we did.

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