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Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory

Kobe & Jordan’s Trainer Tim Grover on the Dark Side of Winning and What It Really Takes to Be Great (Fan Fav)

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory

Impact Theory

Education, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Technology, Society & Culture, Business, Self-improvement

4.75.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

This is a fan fav episode. As you reflect on your business, career, and personal life; where are you winning, and where have you been losing lately? Whether you choose to see the pursuit of success and greatness as a game or not, the reality is there is a cost to play. In this episode, I’m joined by the legendary and iconic trainer, Tim Grover. He authored one of my favorite books, Relentless, and is releasing another book that will change your life called, Winning. He redefines winning in a way that embraces the discomfort of sitting with your losses. If you’re in it to win it, the hard truths Tim drops here about embracing the dark side and making sure your mind is stronger than your feelings will leave you supercharged and ready to attack winning with a new perspective. Order Tim Grover’s newest book, Winning: The Unforgiving Race to Greatness: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Winning-Unforgiving-Race-Greatness-Grover/dp/1982168862/⁠  Original air date: 5-18-2021 SHOW NOTES: Winning | Tim dispels what winning is and why you need to know how to lose to win [2:09] Seeing Inside | Tim on looking internally for the truth stopping your wins [6:07] Winning Flaws | Tim reveals the difference between flaws and weaknesses [7:27] Weakness | Tim on how to leverage and identify your weaknesses to get better [10:38] The Process | Time on why the process is not about emotion, it’s about getting it done [14:41] Pursue the Win | Tim on why not pursuing or seeing the wins every day is an illness [19:49] Confidence | Tim breaks down how winning plays a role in increasing confidence [23:43] Dark Side | Tim explains how using every tool available includes using the dark side [30:54] Fear of Success | Tim on what happens when your feelings are stronger than your mind [42:02] Cost of Great | Tim reveals the pain that playing to win can cost you and loved ones [45:45] Becoming Great | Tim’s tips for finding your own path to winning and trusting yourself [51:45]  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Have you ever wondered what a sandwich sounds like?

0:04.2

Not much to it, is there?

0:06.2

Unless, of course, it's a Walker's sandwich.

0:10.9

Mmm, that is good.

0:12.9

Now that's what Asani should sound like.

0:15.8

Go all crisp in with walkers.

0:19.0

Delicious.

0:19.6

To me, anger is a reaction

0:21.6

to what somebody else

0:23.2

said to you

0:24.3

it creates an emotion

0:26.2

all right

0:27.8

the dark side

0:31.3

turns your anger

0:32.4

into controlled rage

0:34.1

now you're in control

0:35.7

now how long can you stay in, how long can you stay in control? That's the difference.

0:43.8

Are you going to burn out right away? All of a sudden you just let out all this rage? Or do

0:48.3

you know how to control it and place it into right places? Not only to win the battle, but to win that war. And we literally

0:58.7

have a war going on every single moment. It may not be out in here, but there's a war that

1:06.1

goes on in here all the time with ourselves, all the time.

1:11.6

And you can't win that war with only light.

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