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Known Unknowns, Iran and Nukes

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🗓️ 29 September 2009

⏱️ 10 minutes

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Tuesday, September 29th, 2009.

0:06.0

I'm Caleb Brown.

0:07.0

Tehran's desire for nuclear weapons isn't entirely unreasonable,

0:11.0

but how credible are U.S. efforts to convince Tehran that having

0:14.3

nuclear weapons will be a short-run advantage as neighbors step up efforts to

0:19.0

get them too. Justin Logan, Associate Director of Foreign Policy Studies at the Cato Institute says even the best option for the U.S.

0:26.5

may not yield a positive outcome.

0:29.0

As of last week, what did we think we knew generally about Iran and nuclear weapons?

0:37.2

We knew a good bit, although we're in, to put it in Rumsfeldian terms, we're in the realm of known unknowns and unknowns.

0:47.0

Much of the discussion about the Iranian nuclear program centers on the facility at Natans, which interestingly was also unknown, at least to the United States, and became a topic of public discussion.

1:01.0

I believe it was in 2002. That revelation, as Washington

1:07.6

conventional wisdom would have it, came to us via an Iranian opposition group.

1:15.0

But actually if you look at the backstory and how this emerged,

1:21.0

what was clear is that the U.S. Intelligence community actually discovered the

1:25.8

facility and somehow between that discovery and the U.S. government's going public talking about the facility.

1:35.0

The information got handed over to an Iranian anti-government organization,

1:41.0

which then was happy to hold a press conference certainly and

1:44.8

understandably to take credit for that information. So this is I would say it is

1:49.8

a concerning revelation of this additional facility outside the town of Combe, but it is not,

1:58.0

it doesn't fundamentally change the dynamic I think with respect to what we have suspected for a long time the Iranians are up to and what we probably suspect they're up to going forward.

2:09.6

There hasn't been a lot of discussion on what might actually be a reasonable response on the part of Iran.

2:16.6

There are two US-led wars going on on either side of the country, even if we understood that regime to be reasonable by our standards,

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