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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Knowing XI, Knowing EU: Why Europe is naive to trust China

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 28 April 2023

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

China’s relationship with Europe is…difficult. But some leaders, like Emmanuel Macron, see China as a conduit for peace in Ukraine. But can Europe really trust China to negotiate with Russia? Philippe Le Corre, a senior fellow at the Asia Society Policy Institute’s Center for China Analysis, sat down with Alex Andreou to discuss just that.  “The current situation, which is close to a cold war you might say, will not bring China closer to the West.”  “Whenever you talk to Chinese officials they will tell you that China is growing; you better get used to it.”  “It’s unacceptable for China to say this is not our war, we have nothing to do with this.”  Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Written and presented by Alex Andreou. Producers: Liam Tait and Chris Jones. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production: Robin Leeburn. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Instagram | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It would be clear and easy perhaps even satisfying for me to

1:15.9

declare a new Cold War and say that our goal is to isolate China, clear, easy, satisfying and wrong because it would be a betrayal of our national

1:26.0

interest and a willful misunderstanding of the modern world.

1:30.1

Those are the words of Foreign Secretary James Cleverly, delivered as we record this in a keynote

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speech to Mansion House.

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My guest today's Senior Fellow at the Asia Society Policy Institute Center for China Analysis, Senior Advisor in Geopolitics to Asia Society,

1:46.7

France. He is a visiting professor and guest lecturer at illustrious institutions too many

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to list, former research fellow at the Harvard

1:54.4

Kennedy School, the Brookings Institution, and the Carnegie Endowment for

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