Knowing | A Conversation with Bishop T.D. Jakes featuring Touré Roberts
The Potter's House Podcast
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🗓️ 26 April 2026
⏱️ 99 minutes
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Summary
Touré Roberts was on book tour for “Knowing” when the unexpected struck his personal life, and what happened next became the message.
In this powerful conversation with Bishop T.D. Jakes, Touré unpacks what it truly means to know God in the middle of the unknown. From the “Be Still and Know” principle to how God strips and reveals Himself slowly — through fire, through trial, through crawling — this dialogue cuts deep.
They explore how trauma can counterfeit knowledge, why misknowing is more dangerous than not knowing, and how true knowing is never a destination, but it’s an ongoing process of reframing.
You won’t have all the answers, but the God you know must be the rock you stand on.
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Message: Knowing — A Conversation with Bishop T.D. Jakes featuring Touré Roberts
Date: April 26, 2026
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| 0:00.0 | You're tuned into the Potter's House podcast where we are encouraged by powerful testimonies and |
| 0:07.8 | life-changing truth. Let's go. Well, I have the great honor and privilege of talking to the author, |
| 0:24.2 | it's almost like the difference between knowing your Bible |
| 0:29.0 | and knowing God. |
| 0:31.7 | You get something from the author |
| 0:33.6 | that you don't get from just reading the material. You get what made the material, what made the person say the things they did, |
| 0:43.3 | what makes them think the way they do, but makes them have the attitude that they do. |
| 0:48.3 | And so once again, I want to welcome you in a different capacity today here at the church at my mercy. |
| 1:01.0 | And we've got a, you've had an extremely busy, complicated last 10 days. |
| 1:10.0 | They have been quite difficult and yet God has blessed you to go through them. |
| 1:17.5 | Give God a praise for him. |
| 1:24.4 | And I say that you've had a difficult several days because I have had a difficult several days as well. |
| 1:32.3 | Yes. |
| 1:33.3 | But because our family has run into something that we didn't know was going to happen. |
| 1:41.3 | Right. |
| 1:42.3 | And I thought it was so odd that you wrote this book about knowing and then right when you |
| 1:48.7 | got ready to go out there and do it, something happened that you didn't know what's going |
| 1:53.7 | to happen that shook you to your core. |
| 1:59.0 | And I think what we all have to do is be ready for the unexpected. |
| 2:05.4 | In case you don't know, Pastor Sarah was playing with the kids on the trampoline, |
| 2:12.5 | bounced up on the trampoline, came down from the trampoline, hit her neck, pretty much broke her neck, |
| 2:21.6 | crushed, the doctor used the term crushed her neck, and we all went into a panic. |
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