Kleptocrat-in-Chief (w/ Alexander Cooley & Daniel Nexon)
The Mona Charen Show
The Bulwark
4.5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 1 March 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
NOTE: This episode was recorded before the US/Israel attack on Iran.
Two professors describe the staggering corruption Trump is normalizing and how it is affecting foreign policy. Alexander Cooley and Daniel Nexon join The Mona Charen Show to discuss their Foreign Affairs piece “The Age of Kleptocracy.”
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| 0:29.9 | Where's the billions of dollars that people are paying to be on Trump's Board of Peace, |
| 0:34.9 | where he's supposed to be the president of the Board of Peace for Life. |
| 0:39.1 | Nobody really knows. |
| 0:39.4 | Yeah. |
| 0:45.7 | Welcome to the Mona Charrin Show. |
| 0:47.7 | So glad you could join me today. |
| 0:51.7 | Well, we are here to talk about corruption today. |
| 0:54.1 | Kleptocracy, actually. |
| 0:57.3 | And I am joined by two professors who've written a piece |
| 0:58.4 | in the most recent issue of foreign affairs. |
| 1:01.8 | It's called The Age of Kleptocracy. |
| 1:05.1 | So Alexander Cooley is the Claire Toe |
| 1:08.4 | Professor of Political Science at Barnard and senior non-resident fellow at the Chicago |
| 1:14.3 | Council on Global Affairs. And Daniel Nexon is a professor in the Department of Government and the |
| 1:20.9 | Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University. Welcome to you both. Thank you so much for joining me. I should note that I am a |
| 1:31.7 | graduate of Barnard College about, you know, 100 years ago. So, thanks so much for having us. |
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