Mahabahn, Masa al-Qaaheyer.

Well, as you can tell, Jackie Smith is away.

And today we're joined by Shamima Begum.

Shamina, very good afternoon.

Shagran.

It's very good of you to join us, only a few hours after giving birth.

You are a very, very naughty man, Ian Dale.

What, of course, nobody will know is that you've been, you are in Jordan today,

so you could actually make a little deeter and pick her her up on your way back couldn't you I won't be but I could do

and what I find hilarious is that how many times have you been to Jordan yeah I know you're

going to embarrass me now I've been to I've been coming to Jordan for six years, probably

50 times, something like that, because I come pretty frequently each year. And Ian.

And you don't know a single word of Arabic. I know one word. I know. Thank you. But we just had to

go. So all of my Arabic speaking friends who listen to the podcast will now have heard me just crucifying

a bit of Arabic having been here for all that time. I could have, I, I feel very guilty

and I should have tried to have learned more than I have done. You are so English though. You

think, well, just because they all speak English, I don't need to learn their language, honestly.

Well, it's even worse than that. They don't speak English, but I have simultaneous translation, don't I to learn their language honestly well it's even worse than that they don't speak English but I have simultaneous translation don't I but you're a linguist

you're a cunning linguist Ian Dale's there yeah back in the day

back in the day yes I am.

Greetings from Jordan, where the Wi-Fi connection is better than it is from Malvern Worcestershire, can I say, touch wood at the moment.

And so I am very pleased to be in contact with you from all these thousands of miles away in my hotel room.

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