Hi, I'm David Pena Guzman. And I'm Ellie Anderson. Welcome to Overthink. The podcast were two friends, who are also professors, put philosophy in dialogue with the everyday. Because big ideas are within everyone's reach.

Ellie, the time has come for us to ask for money.

This is an overthink first.

We have tried for a very long time and actually succeeded, you know, for the past almost two years to pay our student assistance a very fair wage.

They help us with audio editing, production, podcast management, all kinds of amazing stuff, research,

transcription for accessibility. Therapy. Oh my God. If only we had gotten to that point,

that would be amazing. We have not gotten to that point, but we've been able to pay them a fair wage.

And then what's happened is that our tiny little grants that we get from our universities have

run out.

And now we need a more sustainable source of funding.

A lot of people who listen to the podcast have told me that they assume that we have this just like gigantic pot of money that we're sitting on for like our production costs.

And everybody has been surprised when I tell them, no, we have been financing this

largely out of pocket with the occasional like tiny little grant that covers us for like a

month or two max.

And so.

Yeah, yeah.

We've paid the students out of grants, including me reallocating travel funds for trips I

couldn't take because of COVID. But you and I pay completely out of pocket, including me reallocating travel funds for trips I couldn't take because of COVID.

But you and I pay completely out of pocket for our recording services such that I Venmo you

every month or I should Venmo you every month. Sometimes I forget and then you get like a fat charge

six months later. Anyway, all this is to say, should we say tell listeners what's going on.

So all of this is to say that we have decided to launch our Patreon account.

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