Jonathan Geier, you were the first person I thought of when I heard that Henry Kissinger died.

Is that a compliment, John?

I don't know if it's a compliment.

You spend an inordinate amount of time for a reporter in 2023 thinking and writing about Henry

Kissinger, what is that, like a fixation?

It might look like that from the outside. I have, him speak or attend events with him three, four, five times the last six months. But it turns out the world is fixated with Henry Kissinger. He's been celebrated by Biden's cabinet,

Xi Jinping through a four hour banquet for him. In September, Kissinger met with Zelensky. He met with Nizanyahu. Basically, we try to understand why is Washington, Wall Street, so many world leaders fixated with Henry Kissinger, a man who was 100 years old.

That's coming up on Today Explained.

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