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The Director’s Cut - A DGA Podcast

Kiss of the Spider Woman with Bill Condon and Greg Berlanti (Ep. 564)

The Director’s Cut - A DGA Podcast

Directors Guild of America

Tv & Film

4.6806 Ratings

🗓️ 20 September 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Director Bill Condon discusses his new film, Kiss of the Spider Woman, with fellow Director Greg Berlanti in a Q&A at the DGA theater in Los Angeles. In the conversation, he discusses how the interpretations from previous adaptations influenced his vision, how he approached shooting the dream sequences in contrast to the prison scenes, and the complex choreography that went into staging the musical sequences with Actor Jennifer Lopez. This reimagining of the 1976 novel and Tony Award-wining Broadway musical tells the story of Valentín, a political prisoner who shares a cell with Molina, a gay window dresser convicted of public indecency. To escape the grim reality of their incarceration, Molina entertains Valentín by recounting the plot of a Hollywood musical starring his favorite silver screen diva, Ingrid Luna. See photos and a summary of this event below: https://www.dga.org/events/2025/november2025/kissofthespiderwoman_qna_0925

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I think the thing that Pueig set up, and I was trying so hard to capture, is that if you put two people in a cell and take away everything, and they just have to start to see each other as individuals, you know, he could see the woman that Molina felt he was, you know, I do think that ability just to try to push all that aside and look at,

0:23.8

look at each other's eyes and see who is that,'s Cut, brought to you by the Directors Guild of America.

0:52.6

In this episode, two prisoners form an unlikely bond in a brutal Argentine prison

0:57.3

and director Bill Condon's musical drama, Kiss of the Spider Woman.

1:02.3

This reimagining of the 1976 novel, Antonia Award-winning Broadway musical,

1:07.9

tells the story of Valentin, a political prisoner who shares a cell with

1:11.6

Molina, a gay window dresser convicted of public indecency. To escape the grim reality of their

1:17.7

incarceration, Melina entertains Valentin by recounting the plot of a Hollywood musical, starring

1:23.4

his favorite silver screen diva, Ingrid Luna.

1:43.0

In addition to Kiss of the Spider Woman, Condon's other directorial credits include the feature films, The Good Liar, Beauty and the Beast, Mr. Holmes, the Fifth Estate, The Twilight Saga, Breaking Dawn, Parts One and Two, Kinsey, and Gods and Monsters.

1:48.4

He was nominated for the DGA Award for Outstanding Directorial Achievement and Feature Film for his 2006 film, Dreamgirls.

1:53.0

Following a screening of the film, the DGA Theater in Los Angeles, Condon spoke with

1:57.6

director Greg Berlanti about filming Kiss of the Spider-Woman.

2:01.6

Listen on for their spoiler-filled conversation.

2:09.6

Bill. Hey. Amazing.

2:11.6

Oh, thank you. Thanks for coming. Thanks for staying.

2:14.6

Thanks being here. On a pretty Sunday.

2:16.6

Yeah. Those tears are, because you may not just one, but I think two, arguably three great movies in this movie in terms of fitting them all together. And I loved every single one of them. And I'm going to ask you about all of them. Oh, that's nice. I have a personal confession I have to make first, which is I've known Bill for decades. We used to live on the same street, in fact. So in addition to being a fan who appreciates just how talented

2:39.0

he is, as a person I know how humble Bill is. So I'm sorry to embarrass you, Bill, but I have to

2:43.5

make a few proclamations today in your presence, which is the first is, I don't think that

2:47.9

there is a filmmaker alive today that's arguably done more to contribute to the modern American movie musical than Bill Condon.

2:59.5

From your writing work on Chicago and Greatest Showman to directing such iconic hits as Dreamgirls and Beauty and the Beast, And now this film, which is just a masterwork in every regard,

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