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Welcome back to the latest edition of Until Saturday.

I am Ari Wasserman.

I will not be joined today by any of my esteemed colleagues at the athletic.

Instead, I will be joined by ESPN's Kirk Herbstree,

who came on to the show and had a nice 40-minute discussion about a wide range of topics.

We talked about today's college football, the evolution of the sport, the new 12-team playoff,

the NCAA video game, both his involvement in playing it back in the day and also being a part of it,

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