By the time I graduated high school, doors were opening for an acting career, and I thought

it might as well keep this career going, and the doors that were opening were lining up with what

was happening to me on the inside.

I want to be about things that promote faith.

I want to be about things that promote family and marriage.

And here I am looking in the rearview mirror saying, this has been awesome.

Hey, hey and welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special. I'm really excited to

welcome to the show Kirk Cameron. Kirk is an actor and producer. You remember him as Mike

Siever on Growing Pains, but he's also starred in Fireproof and Way of the Master. He's currently on a 30-city tour for his marriage and parenting conference, living room reset. Now, quick reminder, we'll be doing some bonus questions with our guests. The only way to get access to that part of the conversation is to spend money on us by becoming a subscriber. That's how we hold you up for the cash. Going over to dailywire.com, become a subscriber, you'll have access to all of the

full conversations with every one of our awesome guests. Kirk, thanks so much for joining the show to. Oh, man, it's my honor. Great to meet you. Great to be here with you. I got to say, my entire family grew up on, of course, you as Mike Steve in growing pants. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Well, and this is kind of crazy because my family kind of grew up with you on YouTube.

I mean, you're quite the hit and legend and subject of debate and passion conversations in our house.

I really appreciate it.

I have to say, I was kind of insulted that, you know, I have a name profile, and yet my wife was far more excited that you were coming on the Sunday special than that I actually host the Sunday special. Well, you know, it is fun, and it's funny. So many people grew up in the 1980s with growing pains in shows like that and who's the boss and other kinds of shows. And you just feel like these people grew up with you in your living room. So it's like their family. You feel like you know them. Exactly. And, you know, for me it was the Fonz. It was Henry Winkler. And, you know, I was pretty excited when I met him. So in a second, I want to ask you about what happened while you're producing, while you were on growing pains and your shift to Christianity, because that was obviously the defining feature of not only your life, but also of your move in your career. I'm going to ask you about that in just a second. But first, let's talk about a simple fact. That is, governments can manipulate how much your money is worth. They do this on a fairly routine basis. They're constantly inflating the currency or deflating the currency. China, for example, has been manipulating their currency for a while now that has a real a real impact on your savings. Well, now is the time to get in touch with the folks at Birch Gold. Why? Well, they allow you to diversify out of just the currency and into something that actually stands up to government manipulation. Right now, they're putting out an offer I've never seen. It's the silver stocking stuffer event. When you contact Birch Gold Group this month

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It's worth it. Just text Ben to 474747-47. Claim your eligibility for this special offer today. Again, text Ben to 47-47-47. So let's talk a little bit about what has become sort of the defining feature. Whenever there's an article about you in the press, it's always about your shift to Christianity while you were playing Mike Siever on Growing Pains, which is a radical shift, at least from the outside, just because the character of Mike Seaver is so different from somebody who would become an evangelical Christian. So what exactly happened to you, and what was that experience like? Well, I didn't grow up in a religious home, so I never went to church.

In fact, I thought that Jesus was part of a different Trinity, the Easter Bunny, the tooth fairy, and God.

So that was never on the radar.

But I actually met a girl on the set who was really cute, and she invited me to go meet her family and it was a Sunday morning at church. And I heard a message from the minister that just was just answering

questions that I was asking, existential questions, philosophical questions. And I got thinking

about the fact that one day I would die and if really intelligent people

believe in the existence of God, maybe I'm wrong as an atheist. And at least I ought to

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