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King Leopold's elephant expedition: a story of colonialism in Congo

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4.34.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 February 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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In 1879, King Leopold of Belgium commissioned an expedition to transport Asian elephants from India to the African interior, with a vision of using them as working animals to unlock the continent's resources. Ellie Cawthorne speaks to journalist Sophy Roberts, who has retraced the route of this mammoth and ill-conceived voyage for her book A Training School for Elephants. (Ad) Sophy Roberts is the author of A Training School for Elephants (Doubleday, 2025). Buy now from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Training-School-Elephants-Sophy-Roberts/dp/0857528378/?tag=bbchistory045-21&ascsubtag=historyextra-social-histboty. The HistoryExtra podcast is produced by the team behind BBC History Magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:03.4

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1:11.9

In 1879, King Leopold of Belgium commissioned an expedition to transport Asian elephants

1:19.7

from India to the African interior, with a vision of using them as working animals to unlock

1:26.8

the continent's resources.

1:29.5

Journalist Sophie Roberts has retraced the root of this ill-conceived journey

1:34.0

for her book, A Training School for Elephants.

1:36.9

And I spoke to her to find out more.

1:39.3

So to start us off, Sophie, I wonder if you can introduce us to this little-known story from 1879. Why was there

1:47.6

a mission to transport Asian elephants to the middle of Africa when, I think, as most people

1:53.5

will know, that continent already had elephants of its own? Yes, at the beginning of the 19th century,

2:00.4

it had something like 26 million elephants of its own, Yes, at the beginning of the 19th century, it had something like 26 million

2:02.4

elephants of its own, not the case now, of course, but huge, huge, huge herds. So why bring

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