You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and I'd like to tell you a bit about the

podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

This is Five Live Sport.

Straight away you could tell this fellow something special.

He's a king.

There was a lot going on that no one knew about, and he wouldn't tell anyone.

He never dealt with absorbing any of that.

They asked that I'd like to become money.

Kenny, if you don't know him, can be a very awkward guy.

I mean, he's a very private person.

He's only got time for his family, people that he really knows.

I remember once he was in a really bad mood and mom was like if that's what you like when you've won

imagine what you like when you lose.

He grows at people and he makes people tell me.

There's just that ruthlessness to always be successful.

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