Good afternoon, everyone.

It is Dr. Nigro again with our next episode of Psychology Unplugged.

As always, a heartfelt thank you to all of our followers, both here in the United States and internationally.

And I never fathomed when I ordered a MacBook off of Amazon or through the Apple Store and three books off Amazon on how to start a podcast and with no technological background whatsoever that, you know, at the inspiration and suggestion of my best friend and father, who's one

and the same, to do a podcast. And I appreciate the collective journey that you guys have

decided to embark on with myself. And Julie, whenever it floats, she floats in the ether out there.

So today's topic, I've done the last several episodes on clinical topics, and again,

there's no shortage of those and different ways to approach them.

But Julie had shown me a video or clip of the Northwestern University commencement.

I'm not sure when it was.

But the governor had done the commencement, and he said something which I thought was profound

and would make a good topic for this episode.

And what he talked about kindness and cruelty.

And they're, you know, they're part of the human experience.

And he said something, again, I don't know if these are his words or he was referencing

someone else, but I thought this was what he said was, you know, the smartest person in the room is the kindest.

And I thought, what a brilliant statement that that, it was independent of race, of color,

of political opinion, of religious affiliation.

It really, you know, strutely. opinion of religious affiliation, it really struck me because I try to live a life of kindness

and of gratitude. But in this field, especially doing psychopathology and diagnostics, I've heard the stories of

cruelty, sometimes very overt, sometimes covert, sometimes very passive, but I've seen the

aftermath of cruelty. And is cruelty part of our genetic constitution? I, in a way, yes. It's part of our,

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