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I'm Joe Ovious inside Eifford Studios in downtown, Raleigh. Thanks to Empire Properties. And thanks to Copiers Plus. Check them out online at Copiers.com. Print management, document management, get everything you need up in the cloud. But it's Thursday. It's just past 2 o'clock. You know what that means? It is time for another Butchers Market OG live. Thanks to our friends at The Butchers Market. You can check them out online at the Butchersmarkets.com. Look, Christmas is next week. It's a week from today. Maybe you're hanging out with some friends this weekend. Maybe you got invited to a Christmas Eve gathering. You don't know what to bring.

They catch you at the butcher's market. Ham biscuits, sides. You name it. They got it. And if you're

looking to host, they can also provide all the ingredients, all the essentials you need. And if you're

looking for a last minute gift, may I suggest the steak of the month. So check them out online at the butcher's markets.com. We're going to check in with Brendan Marks of the athletic to get into some college hoops. Also, Mike Manus, Gaukego-Kane's play-by-play as, look at that. Ajo back on the board. The canes are atop the Eastern Conference. And yet everybody's ringing their hands. We'll get to the bottom of that with Mike Manuscalco. We've got the Carolina Panthers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers this weekend, which we'll get to in a second. In fact, that's what I wanted to start with today. A little NFL. I wanted to start with the Panthers and Bucks and, you know, the Panthers fans convincing

their good, convincing themselves they're good enough that they can buy into referee conspiracy

theories this week. Hey, the league admitted. I know, I know. We'll get into that in a second. But the

reason why I'm not going to start with the Panthers immediately is that Will Wade decided to

surprise us all

with a banger of a press conference. Now, I have a theory as to why he did this last night.

They won by 36 points in their heritage game at Reynolds Coliseum last night.

And I saw that aura was there with Tim Peeler.

Yeah. So I check it on him.

I guess he's still with the team.

Like there were rumors that he was like an NIL dispute.

He was back at McNee's State.

Anyway, it's neither here nor there.

The point is that which game was it?

Which game was it ahead of that he had like a six minute WWE shoot promo with Matt Chazenow on the pregame radio broadcast.

The UNC Asheville.

It was the UNC Asheville game.

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