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Aspire with Emma Grede

Kimora Lee They Called Me a B*tch. I Built an Empire Anyway

Aspire with Emma Grede

E13 Media

Entrepreneurship, Business, Society & Culture

4.6874 Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Emma sits down with Kimora Lee –  fashion icon, entrepreneur, and founder — to talk about building one of the most influential brands in fashion and the lessons she learned about power, ownership, and knowing her worth. Kimora helped build Baby Phat into a cultural phenomenon, but behind the success were hard truths about being in rooms, contributing at the highest level, and still not getting what she was owed.  Over time, she learned how to navigate deals, advocate for herself, and stop accepting less than she deserved. Now she has Baby Phat back and this time, it's hers. Kimora shares:  Why being in the room didn't always mean having power The hard lessons she learned about money, deals and ownership  What she wishes she'd known before she signed anything How she learned to stop settling and start advocating for herself Why getting Baby Phat back means more now than it did the first time. Where do you need to stop settling and start taking your place? Drop it in the comments — we're reading. And subscribe to Aspire with Emma Grede so you don't miss what's next. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Today on Aspire, I'm sitting down with the Comorah Lee Simmons.

0:14.1

And our conversation is about what it really takes to build something that's yours and

0:18.7

keep it.

0:19.6

We get into what it was really like, not being in

0:22.4

the rooms where the decisions were being made and having to fight for your position constantly.

0:27.4

And then realizing how much of the game is just simply getting a seat at the table and having

0:32.3

something of your own to bring to it. She opens up about being told that her ex-husband's success was the same as

0:38.8

hers, the moment she questioned if she could actually stand on her own, and the double standards

0:43.7

that she consistently faced trying to play the same game as men. We also talk about knowing

0:49.6

what you will and won't tolerate, not being afraid to start over, and why your mistakes don't

0:55.3

define you, but your decisions really do. Camorra, as you expect, is blunt, honest and unapologetic.

1:02.3

And yes, she has the receipts. So if you're building something big or stepping into your power,

1:07.6

this episode is exactly what you need.

1:14.5

The to your power. This episode is exactly what you need. The start with yourself tour kicks off on April 15th in New York City. Tickets are on

1:19.4

sound now at emigree.com.

1:25.1

Camorra, welcome to Aspire.

1:28.0

Thank you. Thank you for having me. I am so happy to have you. I'm happy to do. I'm happy to do. Finally. Finally, a little piece of magic to have you sitting across from here. I've wanted to speak to you for the longest time. I feel like we have, but not in this format. It feels long overdue. And I tell you what, the reason

1:45.2

that I've wanted you here is because I feel like I have looked at you and watched you and

1:50.8

maps your career and your business and your life and your trajectory for the longest time.

1:56.2

And Emma mapping. Literally. And Emma mapping. I didn't even need the research. I was like,

2:00.0

it's okay. I know everything that I want to ask her, I think what makes you so iconic is that you have had so many firsts in your life. One of the first women of color that was working on the runways and walking the runways in Paris. I think about you as one of the first women of color that I knew that was running

2:18.9

a really giant business. And I wonder actually what those firsts mean to you today. Oh, that's a

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