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Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

Kim Stanley Robinson: The High Sierra: A Love Story (#325)

Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

Brian Keating

Science, Physics, Natural Sciences

4.7 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2023

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Watch the video of this episode here. In this live in-studio episode of The INTO THE IMPOSSIBLE, host Brian Keating sat down with renowned science fiction author, Kim Stanley Robinson, to discuss his fist major non-fiction work, The High Sierra: A Love Story. Equal parts memoir, guidebook, geology tutorial, and historiography, in High Sierra, Robinson describes the geological forces that shaped the Sierras and the history of its exploration, going back to the indigenous peoples who made it home and whose traces can still be found today in the knapping fields of obsidian chips. He celebrates the people whose ideas and actions protected the High Sierra for future generations. He describes uniquely beautiful hikes and the trails to be avoided. Robinson’s own life-altering events, defining relationships, and unforgettable adventures form the narrative’s spine. And he illuminates the human communion with the wild and with the sublime, including the personal growth that only seems to come from time spent outdoors. Stan reveals his writing process (he treats it as a job and doesn’t “wait” for inspiration). Keating and Robinson also discuss Robinson's book, "Galileo's Dream" exploring one of Professor Keating’s heroes and the lessons Stan learned from researching the great scientist. Robinson emphasizes the importance of melding science and art, arguing that the split between them is due to a lack of understanding and a unified approach is essential to the progress of humanity. He defends John Muir against accusations of racism, and mistreatment of Native Americans, pointing out Muir's desire to preserve the Sierras, his recognition of Native American stewardship and his admonitions to get outside. Host Keating even gets feedback on his science fiction novel pitch. Kim Stanley Robinson is a New York Times bestseller and winner of the Hugo, Nebula, and Locus awards. He is the author of more than twenty books, including the bestselling Mars trilogy and the critically acclaimed 2312, Shaman, New York 2140, and The Ministry for the Future. He traveled in Antarctica twice, courtesy of the US National Science Foundation. In 2008, he was named a “Hero of the Environment” by Time magazine, and he works with the Sierra Nevada Research Institute. He lives in Davis, California. Subscribe to the Jordan Harbinger Show for amazing content from Apple’s best podcast of 2018! https://www.jordanharbinger.com/podcasts Please leave a rating and review: On Apple devices, click here, https://apple.co/39UaHlB On Spotify it’s here: https://spoti.fi/3vpfXok On Audible it’s here https://tinyurl.com/wtpvej9v Find other ways to rate here: https://briankeating.com/podcast Support the podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/drbriankeating or become a Member on YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmXH_moPhfkqCk6S3b9RWuw/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you're in the humanities, the world is running under your feet, your life is created by the STEM, science, technology, engineering, and either math or medicine.

0:18.0

And then on the scientists side, you know, they could be, they could feel, oh my gosh, you know know the people's think that we're nerds or

0:23.9

that we're dry people or that we only see things as numbers as if it isn't beautiful

0:28.9

when you've got an equation that works I mean the people don't understand us. And so it's a lack of

0:34.3

understanding on each side, but since I've been a science fiction writer my whole

0:38.9

life, I've been trying to say science is actually quite modest in that it doesn't want to tell people what to do or what things mean.

0:48.4

So science, the scientists doing their science well will be quite, they won't claim more for science than it is

0:56.1

attempting to be right, which is to explain things.

0:58.8

And once, if you clarify that to actually they haven't, they just have

1:09.2

provided an amazingly powerful tool.

1:13.0

Welcome everyone.

1:17.0

Here for your summer listening pleasure

1:19.0

is our episode of Into the Impossible

1:22.0

with celebrated science fiction author and

1:24.8

UC San Diego alumni Kim Stanley Robinson.

1:28.7

Stan has reached the highest peaks of science fiction writing, winning the Ugo,

1:33.8

Nibula, and Locust Awards. He's also become an outspoken advocate for

1:37.6

environmental preservation and climate change science. And with his recent novels,

1:42.1

2312, New York 2140, science. And with his recent novels,

1:43.0

2312, New York 2140, and The Ministry for the Future,

1:47.0

he's become one of the foremost authors in the newly named sub-genre

1:51.0

Clifai or climate fiction.

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