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🗓️ 26 November 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Was Kim Philby the ultimate mastermind, who had governments eating out of the palm of his hand and could charm his way out of the hottest waters? Or do the deaths and suffering that occurred in his ideological quest put him on our blacklist? Glenn Moore, Susie McCabe and Daniel Foxx are here to find out as they debate: evil or genius.
Additional material: Eve Delaney and Christina Riggs Researcher: Christina Riggs Sound Editor: Kate Mac Production Coordinator: Liz Tuohy Executive Producer: Paul Smith
The producer was Sasha Bobak. Evil Genius with Russell Kane is a BBC Studios Audio Production for BBC Sounds.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:07.0 | Hello, I'm Emma Barnett. For most of my career, I've been on live radio, and I love it. |
| 0:13.3 | But I've always wondered, what if we'd had more time? How much deeper does the story go? |
| 0:19.2 | I remember having this very sharp thought |
| 0:21.7 | that what you do right now, this is it. |
| 0:24.3 | This defines your life. |
| 0:26.0 | I'm ready to talk and ready to listen. |
| 0:28.3 | I'm insulted by how little the medical community is ever bothered with this. |
| 0:33.9 | Ready to talk with me, Emma Barnard, is my new podcast. |
| 0:37.0 | Listen on BBC Sounds. Warning, this episode |
| 0:40.1 | contains strong language. Genius. Genius. Welcome to evil genius. I'm Russell Kane, the logical result |
| 0:52.4 | of teaching council scum to conjugate verbs. |
| 0:55.7 | This is the show where we prize open History's Briefcase, |
| 0:59.5 | flick through the dodgy expense receipts, and ask, |
| 1:03.4 | national hero or duplicitous bell-end in a camel coat. |
| 1:07.8 | Our setup couldn't be simpler. |
| 1:09.9 | A panel, hear the facts, then deliver the verdict, |
| 1:13.2 | evil or genius. And yet the simplicity is the trick. By doing so, we lampoon ourselves, a pantomime |
| 1:19.8 | of black and white thinking that detonates into arguments, contradictions and glorious shades of |
| 1:25.2 | doubt. It's less a game than a satire of games. And a warning, |
| 1:29.7 | this isn't Radio 4 Archive Hour where some Tweedy bloke reads old memos in a voice so beige |
| 1:34.8 | Kelly Hoppen could use that voice to remodel the Beckham's Lounge. No, this is the history that |
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